Can you post a picture?

 

Currently i can not due to im in a hurry to run to a Petsmart thats an hour from my University

But her right eye is cloudy/looks like a cotton ball is growing

She is twitching slightly as well and is lethargic.

 

I think it's fungus infection. I'm not good at betta diseases though...


If you can find a Seachem Ammonia Alert there, I recommend to get it. It can detect ammonia in the tank water.

 

Without a photo and the information in this form it's almost impossible to tell what's wrong. I'm moving this to Diseases and Emergencies.

http://www.bettafish.com/99-betta-f...10-please-read-before-posting-fill-out-form-so-we-can-best-help-your-betta.html

 

Update: Please help

So as I mentioned from the 1st post,

Recently my fish, Cleo had some random white cotton ball thing growing on her left eye.

I then ran to Petsmart to get some meds because this same thing killed my other two fish, Atlas, and Donny.

I asked them to do a water test for both the source of where I get my water and water that was in the tank. Based on the test, both waters were good, within the parameters needed for a betta.

On that specific day, she wasn't moving or swimming. Ever since I placed in the meds(that's why her water is green...) she was moving around move and swimming around the tank, but the cotton ball thing still grows. Its API (Even if it is ****(not sure if it is), i wanted to act fast...)

What are my next steps in regards to kicking this disease in the ass..? I currently don't know the parameters, but based on the prior water test done, all within normal range.

She is in;

Aqueon 2.5 gallon tank.
No tank mates
Omega One Pellets
Tank temp: 78
Symptoms appeared yesterday.
In the water there is: Water conditioner, aquarium salt, and prime.

Thanks!

 

We still can't help without the full form. What meds did you put her in? General Cure won't help this.

 

I placed in Fungal Cure..

Because I wanted to start something and not wait and have her life be taken.

I also have Marineland All in One remedy.

 

The only acceptable parameters are 0ppm Ammonia and Nitrites and -20 Nitrates. Unfortunately, PetSmart and PetCo often tell people .25ppm Ammonia and Nitrite are "Safe." That's why we ask for exact numbers. We also ask that the entire form be filled out. We developed it with much thought so, as the title says, we can better help you help your Betta.

 

Housing:
How many gallons is your tank?
2.5
Does it have a filter?
Yes
Does it have a heater?
Yes
What temperature is your tank?
78
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
No
Does your Betta have tank mates? What kind?
No

Food:
What food brand do you use?
Omega One
Do you feed flakes or pellets?
Pellets
Freeze-dried?
No
How often do you feed your Betta? How much?
4-5 pellets twice a day.

Maintenance:
Before your Betta became ill how often did you perform a water change?
Every 3-4 days
What percentage of water did you change?
25-40%
Do you vacuum the substrate or just dip out water?
Vaccum
What additives do you use? What brand of conditioner?
Prime, aquarium salt, water conditioner

Water Parameters:
What are your water parameters? Please give exact numbers. If tested by pet store please get exact numbers. "Fine" or "Safe" won't help us help you. Important: Test your water *before* the regular water change; not after one.

Ammonia: None
Nitrite: ?
Nitrate:?
pH: 7
Hardness (GH): ?
Alkalinity (KH): ?

Symptoms and Treatment:
When did you first notice the symptoms?
Yesterday
How has your Betta’s appearance changed? Just a white cotton ball on her eye
How has your Betta’s behavior changed?
She doesn't swim as much
Is your Betta still eating?
No
Have you started treating your Betta? If so, how?
I placed in API Fungal Cure in her water..because I wanted to start something and treat.
Does your Betta have any history of being ill?
No
How long have you owned your Betta? Was he or she ill or suffering some sort of damage when purchased?
I got her February 13, 2017

 

I can't see a fungus or anything fuzzy. Can you get a photo from above. It almost appears she has pop-eye. Thanks.

 

Here are some more photos.

 

It looks, to me, more as if she has suffered an injury or has pop-eye. See how far out her left eye is compared to the right in the first photo? And it looks opaque. Someone else lend your opinion, please.

 

If it is the case,

what are some steps to take?

 

Doesn't look like fungus or fuzz to me either. My guess is pop eye. Sorry but can you get more pictures? Like one that's well lit and straight on the eye? Shining a flashlight on it might help, though it'll make your betta mad for a bit.

 

Currently is night time here so I have turned off the lights in my dorm room lol.
I can try again tomorrow morning.

What are the next steps to take for this?

 

IF it's popeye (do not treat until this has been confirmed) there's a few things you can do. First step is pristine water. Water changes multiple times a week. If it's caught early enough you won't need to medicate and you can use epsom salt at 1 tbs per 5 gallons for a few days (in addition to your water changes) as your treatment. If you do need to medicate Maracyn ll or Kanaplex would work

 

fungal cure? By which company?


Marineland All in One remedy? That stuff won't fix the problem.


What kind of filter do you have on the tank?


I agree Kanaplex by seachem if you can find it. Or maracyn 11 if not, Furan 2 is a good one, problem with furan2 is it will kill your nitrogen cycle.


I would get a water sample done at Pet Smart and ask for the numbers. Because question marks are no good to me. I agree, water changes and espom salt first. If the condition does not improve in a few days then I would medicate.

 

I have just the filter that was provided with the tank..?
Well I currently won't be able to get Kanaplex by seachem due to the fact where I live for school theres no petsmart/pet store that are with a huge variety of aquatic products

Its API fungal cure. Again because it looked like a fungus to me and so I grabbed fungal meds.

Should I just do a 100% water change(not now obviously). But take everything out of the tank, bare bottom...? Im not sure

 

100% water changes are too stressful. Don't do more than 50%. There's no need to take everything out of the tank. That would be very stressful to your betta. Check all the decor and only take out anything that's sharp or could have poked him in the eye. Kanaplex would most likely have to be ordered online.

 

Should I just do a water change tomorrow A 50% water change?

 

Yes a 50% tomorrow would be good

 

I agree with sabrinah. taking everything out and 100 percent water changes will stress the betta out. 50% water changes would be better.




I'm lucky that the Big Als in my area, carries Kanaplex. Furan2 is just as good as kanaplex is and is more easily found. Like I said, it will kill the nitrogen cycle. Having tetra safe start or or stress zyme for after the treatment is finished would be a good idea to have on hand. It will help jump start the nitrogen cycle again. (I tested Stress Zyme and the nitrates came back positive) Kanaplex won't kill the nitrogen cycle but you would have to most likely order it online.

 

I agree with sabrinah. taking everything out and 100 percent water changes will stress the betta out. 50% water changes would be better.




I'm lucky that the Big Als in my area, carries Kanaplex. Furan2 is just as good as kanaplex is and is more easily found. Like I said, it will kill the nitrogen cycle. Having tetra safe start or on hand or stress zyme for after the treatment is finished would be a good idea to have on hand. It will help jump start the nitrogen cycle again. (I tested Stress Zyme and the nitrates came back positive) Kanaplex won't kill the nitrogen cycle but you would have to most likely order it online.

Well I will order it tomorrow.

So should I do water changes everyday?

 

every three days would be less stressful and aquarium salt will help. one tablespoon per gallon.

 

According to this sticky, you can use API Fungus Cure combined with Epsom Salt IF what she has is really a popeye.
http://www.bettafish.com/709163-post2.html

 

First: I am not one who jumps immediately to antibiotics if there are other possibilities to try. I follow the advice of lilnaugrim of this forum and Rachel O'Leary (www.msjinkzd.com or msjinkzd on YouTube) and only advise antibiotics if a case is advanced or if frequent water changes and homeopathic remedies like Aquarium or Epsom Salt, IAL, etc., have not proved effective.

As pop-eye has two major causes, dirty water and injury, I suggest using Epsom Salt at one tablespoon per five gallons. You do not want to use Aquarium Salt as it can cause fluid retention. Swelling = Epsom Salts; Injuries = Aquarium Salt. If she doesn't improve you can go to a broad spectrum antibiotic like Kanamycin or Maracyn 2. On the off-chance this is fungal I checked the API site and you can use the Fungus Cure along with the Epsom Salt.

If she's not better in 10 days or starts getting worse, do a 100% water change and start using a wide-spectrum antibiotic. You can combine Kanamycin with Furan 2. Please see ryry2012's link.

The problem with pop-eye is it can take months for the eye to return to normal. What you want is extremely clean water. Three times per week 25% water changes making sure to remove any waste or leftover food. Once the eye starts looking good you can go back to your regular maintenance schedule.

 

Update

I just wanted to post an update,

THank you everoyne for the help and advice I have been given for my little beauty Cleo.

Today I did a 50% water change and added another pack of the API Fungal Cure( I was following the instructions of the meds).

I fed her today and she actually ate! Just a pellet.. but its something. The thing on her eye is still the same. And shes been swimming around slowly but surely..

For the next couple of days, should I just do a water change everyday? Or something else?

 

Are you using Epsom Salt?

 

Update: Photos

I do not have Epsom Salt on me, I won't be able to start that type of treatment until this weekend because I will be going to a city near my school and I would be able to pick it up.


I did though place in aquarium salt...but then I realized that retains water within the body so the next water change I will NOT place it in the water.


Here are some photos of how she is now


She ate 3 pellets today! Just fed her.

 

Can't you do full water change with instructed amount of API Fungus Cure?


I'm not trying to offend you. I just think Cleo will feel better without Aquarium Salt...

 

Can't you do full water change with instructed amount of API Fungus Cure?


I don't want to offend you. I just think Cleo will feel better without Aquarium Salt...

Oh! No you are not offending, I did a stupid mistake and placed in the aquarium salt. So I wont place it in the tank the next water changes I make.

 

When my betta had fin rot, I used Fungus Cure. He was in a 2.5 gallon hospital tank without filter. I completed the first 48 hours. Then I did full water change with instructed amount of Fungus Cure (1/2 packet if I'm correct).


You can do the same. Do full water change and add 1/2 packet of Fungus Cure.

 

Alright, it's either

-An elder
-Infection

Sometimes, when you buy betta fishes at a store, they can be an adult when bought, or they can be still young.

In that case... Is he having a hard time finding the food you give to him? If so, he will most likely be and elder.