Please fill out the form in the disease section. I know you gave some info, but I, and some other members might have a hard time registering info in a paragraph. Also, the questions in that form will help us as much as possible. I see some febreeze behind your tank. Is it aresol? Aresol is the worst when it comes to fish, all the chemicals mix with the water.
Whenever you reply, change the water soon after you do reply. My guess is ammonia poisoning, but there may be more.

 

Oh thats only there because my desk is quite small and im trying to clean up my table and that just sorta fell behind, and i dont really understand what you mean by fill out the form in disease section? I'm new here and when i registered i was in a huge panic so i didnt know where to post this.

 

Here's the form


Housing:
How many gallons is your tank?
Does it have a filter?
Does it have a heater?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Does your Betta have tank mates? What kind?

Food:
What food brand do you use?
Do you feed flakes or pellets?
Freeze-dried or frozen?
Live?
How often do you feed your Betta? How much?

Maintenance:
Before your Betta became ill how often did you perform water changes?
What percentage of water did you change?
What additives do you use?
What brand name of water conditioner?

Water Parameters:
What are your water parameters? Please give exact numbers. If tested by pet store please get exact numbers. "Fine" or "Safe" won't help us help you.

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness (GH):
Alkalinity (KH):

Symptoms and Treatment:
When did you first notice the symptoms?
How has your Betta’s appearance changed?
How has your Betta’s behavior changed?
Is your Betta still eating?
Have you started treating your Betta? If so, how?
Does your Betta have any history of being ill?
How long have you owned your Betta?
Was he or she a rescue?
Was he or she ill when bought or given?

Please provide clear photos

 

Ah! okay thank you! i'll fill that out right now

Housing:
How many gallons is your tank? I'm not too sure I know it uses 2 full 3L of those water jugs and then a half
Does it have a filter? No
Does it have a heater? No
What temperature is your tank? Uh... normally room temperture since I dont own a heater I wouldnt know
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No I don't think so
Does your Betta have tank mates? What kind? No

Food:
What food brand do you use? Tetra O BettaMin Food for Bettas
Do you feed flakes or pellets? Flakes
Freeze-dried or frozen? No
Live? No
How often do you feed your Betta? How much? I feed my betta in the morning and at night and i feed him a little not a lot

Maintenance:
Before your Betta became ill how often did you perform water changes? when he was in his small tank it would be every 3 days now that hes in a bigger one its every 2 times a month
What percentage of water did you change? 50%
What additives do you use? Just Betta Bowl Plus
What brand name of water conditioner? Betta Bowl Plus

Water Parameters:
What are your water parameters? Please give exact numbers. If tested by pet store please get exact numbers. "Fine" or "Safe" won't help us help you. This I have no idea at all

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness (GH):
Alkalinity (KH):
I don't know
Symptoms and Treatment:
When did you first notice the symptoms? I noticed 3 days ago that there was still food at the top of the tank
How has your Betta’s appearance changed? I don't think so
How has your Betta’s behavior changed? he lays at the bottom of the tank breathing heavily and doesn't swim around much anymore
Is your Betta still eating? only a tiny bit, usually he eats all the food, but when i check at nighttime theres still food at the top of the tank and I said i feed him a tiny bit not a lot
Have you started treating your Betta? If so, how? No, because I don't know how to what I need
Does your Betta have any history of being ill? No
How long have you owned your Betta? 7 Months
Was he or she a rescue? My aunt bought me him at walmart
Was he or she ill when bought or given? No he was happy and always swimming around


~ I just want to say I don't understand, and sometimes when I read things I don't know what they mean, so If I don't understand something please help I would appreciate it a lot. ~

 

An airstone is like a sponge that makes a bunch f bubbles.They look cool, but have no use with bettas.

3L is about... 1.5US gal? Plus another but is.... 1.75USgal? I'm Canadian, but I suck at litres. Everything is labelled in gallons anyways.

So is the previous one 1.75gal? Or was that the one before?

I would do a water change again de to the size of the current tank.You need a heater. Bettas are tropical and they need their water to be a steady 78C (for all the people who use Fahrenheit) or 26C. Room temperature is probably to cold for him.

Flakes are not a recommended food because they cause constipation, which is most likely what your guy has. If you can, I would buy Epsom salt and dose that into his tank to make him poop. A recommended food is New Life Spectrum and Omega One.

 

Can you get pictures of him?

There are a few things. As Aquastar mentioned, you need a heater or at least a thermometer (Wal-Mart fish section, glass thermometer is a dollar and a half! Cheap!) so you know what his water temp is. The bigger tanks is 2.5 gallons for anyone wondering. That still needs weekly water changes, likely the ammonia has built up and is poisoning him. Pictures will help us to help you. Water changes will be key, but you NEED to make sure that the new water temperature matches the old water temperature so you don't shock him.

When was the last time you did a water change?

 

I'm Canadian too!
and thats all my fish will eat is flakes.. i've tried him on pellets, uh.. how do i do a gallon check on his tank? i dont have anything to measure with
and the last time he had a water changed was Friday at 10pm
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i took these of him yesterday when he came out of hiding they were the only ones i was able to get
My mom says that hes in a 5 gallon tank

 

Okay so I cleaned his tank and noticed while he was laying there he has white patches on him, so i've took some pictures of him while he was in the cup they all look sorta simaliar.. but i'll post the ones where you can acutally see it.[/ATTACH][/ATTACH][/ATTACH][/ATTACH]

I know I was suppose to edit but it was already long enough so i figured it would have been ok to just make a new post.

 

Yeah, that's slime coat coming off. That's normal if the fish is agitated or sick.

Were any of the cup ones taken with flash?

I want to be positive before I go jumped in but I'm quite sure that I see raised scales at his stomach area. Raised scales (pineconing) means that his kidney(s) have shut down and he's starting to build up liquids inside since he can't process it. This is called Dropsy, it's 99% fatal. But if you can possibly get closer pictures and straight above him with flash and without, that would help to determine if it's just a trick of photography or if he's actually raising his scales.

 

Yes they were all taken with flash

he just sits at the bottom of the tank, I took out his house thingy, so that I can keep an eye on him and he just lays there at the bottom not moving much at all, ive put some food in his tank, ( I only have flakes right now and dont have any money til next month )
If his kidneys are shut down,what would I do?
is there any chance at saving him?

 

You can put tap water in his tank as long as you use dechlorinator, so you don't have to keep buying those bottles of betta water. Because he is in such a small tank, you should change his water weekly. You said there are about 9 L in his tank, so that would be 2.5 gallons. I have a 2.5 g tank that looks exactly like the one you have that I got from Walmart, so I'm assuming it's the same one. You should change 30-50% of his water weekly. Bettas are tropical fish so their water needs to be warmer than room temp. You can buy a heater and thermometer from walmart. The ideal temp should be between 78 and 82 degrees F. My betta isn't a fan of pellets either, but he will eat them if I soak the pellets in water for 5 minutes before giving them to him so they're soft. Maybe you could try that. In one of the photos, his scales look raised on his back and stomach. If that is the case, you should look up instructions on giving him epsom salt to help flush out the fluids that are causing his scales to raise.

 

I took these last night before I went to bed
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I put betta bowl plus in his water well the jugs before i fill his tank
but like I said if his kidneys have shut down, is it too late to save him?
all hes doing is just laying at the bottom of his tank and doesnt move much at all
also the white patch on him is on his left side, he wouldnt stay on the left side so I could get a better picture of it :/

 

Ass aid, It's 99% Fatal. But there are some people who have saved their betta online. Add some Epsom salt to get rid of some of the fluids and if you can get some Kanaplex as well. Those are the best treatments if you wish to try and save him.

 

Well, I said it was a POSSIBILITY, I didn't decided if they were raised or not. And I'm sorry, those new pictures are actually worse >.< Sorry! I know it's difficult to get pictures of them, especially when they don't want to cooperate!

IF, and that's an IF, he has Dropsy. Then there is nothing you can do for him, organ failure cannot be helped at all. This happens in humans as well, we swell up but the only difference is, is that we can do an organ replacement and give the person a new organ. We can't do that on fish, it's party where the organ is placed and of course, these are, relatively speaking, cheap and very tiny fish. It's not worth it. I know that may sound insensitive, but in the grand scheme of things, it really isn't.

I see discoloration on him, but that could be a few different things; it could be Marbling (changing of color), could be Acute Columnaris attacking, or part of Dropsy. Can you see any raised scales on him? You can google Fish Dropsy to see pictures of it if you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

Google betta dropsy. Not any other kind.

There is nothing worse than advanced goldfish dropsy. It's scary to be honest.

 

When I read in your original post that you only changed the water one or twice a month, and that his tank had no filter... that could have been a really big contributor. It's good that you are using betta water conditioner, but that doesn't do anything to keep the water clean of fish waste - that's where filters help.

Smaller tanks are actually more work, there is less space available for ammonia to dissolve in, so it gets dirty faster. You really ought to change the water twice a week in the future, perhaps more if needed. Flakes also tend to make tanks dirty because they're hard to measure precisely, and because they make the fish produce a lot of waste. I wish the best for your betta, if he lives consider getting him a heater, thermometer, and a filter system. And pellet food, it's much easier to measure and doesn't make the tank as dirty as quickly.

 

Hm.. See my mom thinks hes just dying because he could be old, they dont tell us how old they are when we get them I havent seen any scales raiseing but then I don't know because i've never had fish in my room except this one, so I never kept an eye on them, my mom also said that when we used to have bettas she'd never use that conditioner stuff, and that she'd clean them once the tank was super dirty, so its hard to like ask her hey mom whats wrong? yeah see, i usally do it once a week because his tank alwas looks dirty i think it was once that i did it twice a month, and i keep taking a turkey baster and sucking out the old food and the gross stuff at the top like hair because like i always see these tiny hairs and im like WHERE DO YOU COME FROM?

 

Normally, chain store bettas are 6 months to a year old judging by sizes I've seen. Bettas can live up to 8 years with spectacular care, but most live from 2 years to 4 years if they are lucky.

Aquariums never look clean. Fish like it a bit dirty. Fish need bacteria and other stuff us humans don't like.

 

its probably too late now, but that white area that i saw, i looked closely and looked up mold on a fish and thats what it looks like.. and it looks fluffy as well... and yes I think he does have dropsy i've read how the fish acts and its sorta like that but 5 days hes barely ate... im scared that its too late to save him now..

 

It's called fungus. Get some tetracycline. It worked miracles on my VT. If caught early, fungus is easy to treat. Do Epsom salt as well. Not eating can be lots of things. The tetracycline will do all sorts of bacterial infections, get some. The only true constant symptoms of dropsy is bloating and pineconning. The rest could be other stuff affecting him.

 

Is this it? or is there one for just fish?
also do I put it in just tap water? cos i left a small tank of water out over night to put him in incase the conditonior was harming him

 

we put him in a smaller tank with just water and mom says the oranage one will be ok its just oranage smell all hes doing is freaking out, swimming sideways, I just i don't know how to explain it i'm just in panic mode

we cant get that.. thing that you said too, because the pet store is really far and no one will take me only one person in my whole house drives well the other one works so my aunt cant, and i doubt the store up the street sells it because it barely has stuff for fish..

 

Orange is not okay. You shouldn't use anything with scents, or dyes in it. >.< Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

Even scents like candles or aerosol sprays can harm fish when they enter the water, that's why you shouldn't have any of that stuff near a fish tank. It's not just a scent.

If you used that salt, do a 100% water change as soon as you read this or when you can. If you didn't use it, just let him be then. Definitely get Tetracycline or Furan-2. I find Furan-2 to actually be better against false-fungi which is what that is. Columnaris, it's a bacterial infection that presents itself in a fungus type cotton growth, it's not a real fungus. A true fungus would have no effect with an antibiotic. This is why it's good to know the disease: bacterial infections need antibiotics, fungi infection need fungal treatments, and parasites need protozoan treatments Of course, sometimes it's really hard to decipher what the disease potentially is, especially when we aren't around the fish personally.

 

I'm sorry, but if you're parent doesn't believe in conditioner, than you may want to double check any other advise they give you.

Such as: The water here is perfect! You don't need to add any chemicals! (aka conditioner, I haven't done a chloramine test yet though.)

Do a 100% right now! There is no special fish Epsom salt, and if there is it's like buying 'Betta Water'. Pointless and over priced. I use the stuff at walmart. What ever you choose, it must be unscented and without any added product.

I hope you did't overdose him in there.
My baths have resulted in sudden salinity stress, but that cleared up in 2mins max.

 

yeah my mom put it in, and he started swimming around after a while, i looked at his fins before she put it in his fins looked teared up as well, i have no way of getting the other things to help him sadly, how long do I have before he dies? he hasnt been eating for about 5 days, and mom looked up the epsom salt thing and she said yeah he will be fine with it, but i said no... its orange
the tetracycler thingy she said we cant get because you have to get it from a doctor ( what? )
and I have no way to any stores til the weekend